Aristo! Aristo! A la lanterne!: Florida shooting.....

Sunday, July 22, 2018

Florida shooting.....

The scenario, much of which has been cut in the video...

Car pulls up to the store and parks unlawfully in a handicapped spot. A guy pulls up, gets out of his car, walks around the unlawfully parked vehicle to check the tag (it seems), and then verbally accosts the woman driving.

The women's boyfriend (husband?) comes out of the store, rapidly walks to the guy talking, and without exchanging words violently shoves him to the ground. Knocked him back a good six feet or so.

Guy on the ground draws his weapon. Captain McShovey had been stepping towards the guy on the ground, but backed a step or two upon seeing the guy was now armed.

Guy on ground pops McShovey in the chest a few times, and the guy staggers away to die.

People in Vehicle A parked unlawfully in a handicapped spot. Not nice.
Guy drives up, and takes it upon himself to school the not nice lady driver. Pushy, but just talk-talk at this point. Me, if I had been ticked at not nice people, I'd have taken a few pictures and called the police. I would not berate the other driver. That's aggressive.
Big Bad Dude walks up and slams the talk-talk guy into the ground. Bad idea shithead, that's assault. You thought it was all your way because you had at least 100 pounds on the guy you slammed.
Guy on the ground is now armed and brandishing/preparing to shoot as BBD advances, and I can see where BBD was clearly a threat at that point.
BBD realizes he's made a tactical error, and the little guy he slammed to the ground is actually capable of defending himself. Oops.... time to step back. First thing BBD did right.
Guy on the ground fires, it appears a couple times. BBD takes lethal wounds to the chest.
BBD walks himself back inside the store to die.

There's a lot going on here, and the aggressor role changes hands a few times. At this point, the shooter has not been charged.

My thoughts.... Both these brain donors screwed up royally. Big Bad Dude introduced violence to the situation where it wasn't called for. He paid a hard price for that. Talk-Talk dude probably shouldn't be driving around all prepped to aggressively berate idiots. That's just a bad idea from almost every angle.

The key here is what happened when the guy slammed to the ground became an armed combatant. Did BBD back off a few steps as he appeared and turn non-threat? Did the armed slammee on the ground have time to comprehend that?

It looks like a bad shoot to me, but it all hinges on that second or two. It may take a jury to attempt to sort it out. Sad all round.

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